Even though the Goo Goo Dolls got shut out at a certain awards
ceremony months ago, singer/guitarist Johnny Rzeznik isn't bitter.
Well, maybe just a little.
"The Grammys are bullshit," he says in describing the sheer plastic
falsity of the gala event.
"It's all entertainment. It's like watching a fuckin' movie.
Everybody is floating around in their own vapor.
"I find it amusing."
These venomous words from Rzeznik may catch a few off-guard.
Remember, this is the same 33-year-old guy who writes song lyrics like:
"And I don't want the world to see me / 'cause I don't think that they'd
understand / when everything's made to be broken / I just want you to know
who I am."
Most likely only a sparse few wouldn't recognize the chorus to the
Goo Goo Dolls' mega-hit "Iris." And as a result of the song's popularity,
the group is highly visible on pop radio stations all around the world.
They just returned from a European mini-tour, but it appears the
excursion to what he calls the "Dark Continent" wasn't all peaches and
cream.
"I don't really dig France," Rzeznik says with disgust. "People
there are a bunch of snotty pricks."
The same cannot be said for some of its other Trans-Atlantic
stops, though.
"In Italy, it's bizarre," he says. "They make no distinction
between the Backstreet Boys and Slayer; everyone's a pop star, that's it.
It's like all these 12-year-old girls screaming [in an Italian accent]
'Johnny, Johnny, I love you, I love you.'"
The admiration toward the Goo Goo Dolls comes over in a different
light over in the States. Its latest album Dizzy Up the Girl went
platinum and is still resting nicely on the Billboard charts. And with
single
after single hitting No. 1, it appears the sky's the limit for the trio.
However, with this fame comes the unfortunate oversaturation of
the Goo Goo Dolls' music, a concept which doesn't sit well with Rzeznik.
In fact, he flat out apologized in a recent issue of Teen People for
the
mind-numbing heavy rotation of "Iris."
"People don't understand my band--they only understand 'Iris,'"
he says. "'Iris' is just a tiny little piece of my band. I think radio
stations do overplay songs. I think they kill the careers of bands."
Rzeznik says he wishes fans would buy a record and enjoy the
entire piece rather than just the hit single. With artists like these,
people tend to solely focus on the look--a superficial aspect of stardom
Rzeznik says he wants to stay far away
from. Instead, he would rather have fans focus on the big picture.
"I don't want to sell my face--I want to sell my music," he says.
"People try to write my music off, saying 'I'm just a pretty boy.' My
music comes first, and there's nothing wrong with a little sex appeal."
Rzeznik says he wants other musicians to put music before vanity
as well.
"Image is an important part of music. I have this equation," he
says, pausing slightly. "If you write a song and then put on leather pants
and play--you're OK. But if you put leather pants on and stand in front of
the
mirror, then play--you're fucked up."
Rzeznik certainly belongs to the former category. The songwriter
penned most of the tracks off Dizzy and doesn't plan to stop there.
"I love writing ballads," he says. "I think I'm good at it, and I
enjoy doing it. It's a really integral part of making a well-rounded
album."
But his trail wasn't always lined with irises. He traveled a long
and winding road before he and the Goo Goo Dolls became the fan favorite
they are now. Rzeznik grew up in Buffalo with an alcoholic father and became
an
orphan at age 16. Completely on his own, he made ends meet by using small,
monthly Social Security checks from his deceased parents.
Not surprisingly, these were tough times for Rzeznik, as he
frequently consulted the bottle for support. Fresh out of his teenage
years, his anger was transformed into music as he formed the group Sex
Maggot with friend/bassist Robby Takac and drummer George Tutuska.
"The first six months of this band, I don't think there was 20
sober minutes," he says. "We were a garage band--we made noise.
When this band started, we were all balls and no brains. We wanted to be
as loud and hard as possible."
Soon enough, the group brought that punk-rock sound to the studio.
Now under the friendlier title (named after an old magazine ad for
something called a Goo Goo doll), the band released its self-titled debut
in 1987. For years they performed in relative obscurity--they were still
far from famous.
"We played at places where the stage fuckin' collapsed," he says
with a laugh.
However, the Goo Goo Dolls' hard work eventually paid off.
The group's 1993 album Superstar Car Wash spawned the minor
hit
"We Are the Normal," and soon they were making the rounds on college
radio. The wheels of success were starting to turn. It took two more years
to happen, but they finally broke through into the mainstream.
The track "Name," off their fifth release A Boy Named Goo,
launched the trio into superstardom. But since the pop hit was a far cry
from their early crash-and-burn days, some old-school fans became
disenchanted. Yet Rzeznik shows no remorse.
"I did exactly what I wanted to do," he says. "I never played a
note or put a song on a record that I didn't want to do. I write music for
myself. I didn't sell out."
And it seems this philosophy has worked. The Goo Goo Dolls played
a series of shows opening for the Rolling Stones, a band for which Rzeznik
has intense admiration.
"I can't even make a dent in what the Stones do," he says. "As
hard as I work writing songs and stuff--I can't do what the Stones do."
They didn't play second fiddle for too long, though. The group
headlined its own Dizzy Up the Girl tour that took them around the
country with the New Radicals.
At all Dizzy tour dates, volunteers from U.S.A. Harvest will
collect food for distribution to local shelters, soup kitchens and other
social service agencies where hungry people gather.
"I'm beggin' everyone to bring at least something," he says. "It's
good for your karma."
Rzeznik has a good heart and knows firsthand life isn't always
spectacular. And because of his troubled past, the Goo Goo Dolls' frontman
is always looking to help out other people. His attempts to reach his fans
haven't gone unnoticed. He recalls one compliment in particular which
thanked him "for telling us all the
things that everybody else forgot to tell us." Rzeznik says it made him feel
he was writing something that people could grab hold of.
"For someone being able to identify with what you said in a song
is very powerful," he says. "I'm not a preacher, though. I just say what I
feel."
And few would question that sentiment as he reminds listeners of
who he is - or more appropriately, who he isn't.
"I'm not a rock star," he explains to anyone wondering. "I'm a guy
in a band that does really well. Every rock star I meet is an asshole. I'm
not part of that."